Marlin, Model 1894c, Cal. .357 Magnum

Here are my reccomendations

remmington 700-bolt action for 700 dollars you may be able to get this and optics but they will need to be fairly cheap optics but these are great rifles

savage arms- bolt action much cheaper and normally you can get them in bundles with optic included these things are very accurate but ig you take it trekking your site will be off after a few miles

mosin nagant- way under 700 more like 100 and you spend the extra monety on optics and a better stock however this is still bolt action

Mini-14/30 great little rifles compact light and reliable not super accurate though, you can pick these up for right around 700

Wasr-10- the romanian AK47 normally between 400-500 dollars personal favorite of mine

sako rifles- again bolt action but very good

Sks- 10 round semi auto i love mine rigth now they are going for around 250 but tons of after market stuff
you can get a stag arms ar 15 for around 700 and they are good guns on the under 1100 ar market you can find much better unless your willing to pay twice the price.(very similar to rock river arms)

marlin lever action- they are all good dpends more on the cartridge you choose than the gun

I excluded .22 because there are just way to many decent .22 rifles out there

Also replying to your post "cowboy17", it would be a .357 magnum I believe. I don't know if that would be a sufficient cartridge though. -_-'

Suitable enough for goblins. However my next lever-action purchase will be of the .45-70 or .44 magnum flavor....

Sks- 10 round semi auto i love mine rigth now they are going for around 250 but tons of after market stuff

you can get a stag arms ar 15 for around 700 and they are good guns on the under 1100 ar market you can find much better unless your willing to pay twice the price.(very similar to rock river arms)

Saiga rifles aren't half bad either. However if you want them to accept hi-cap magazines you've got to do a bit of work for them. IO Ordinance (think that is the place) are turning out AK clones and clones of some improved AK rifle for a little over five bills or less. Something to look into.

Two fifty? I've got to drop into Texas everyone wants an arm and a leg for one.

DPMS isn't half bad either.

Also replying to your post "cowboy17", ..'

Suitable enough for ..

I'd love one in .357 or .44 mag but 30/30 really shines in a survival scenario cause it is big enough to take out anything I'm going to find in east texas and ammo is cheap for being rihunting ammo bout .50 cents a round here, it's rather inaccurate at range(over 150 yards) but its much more comfortable that a .45/70

Your right saiga completely slipped my mind and they are roughly the same price as the wasr-10 maybe even cheaper.

Here 250 is a conservative guess i picked ine up for 180 but that was 2 1/2 years ago, but if you come to Texas looking for some I know a great little gun shop on I-30 (sometimes they aren't the cheapest but the have knowledgable trustworthy people, though they are a bit opinionated)

Your right about DPMS but all of those companies: RRA, DPMS, Stag Arms use the alot of the same parts and stag arms is owned by the company that produces them so they tend to be a little cheaper ,but with less variation. I think they only have a few models that inter change these parts: fixed stock,adjustale, quad rail, no rail, flat top, carry handle, and then barrel lengths but they are great platforms to build off of I hear

And to OP if you want to find a marlin in a 30/30 almost every pawn shop south of the mason dixon line will have them outside of deer season(particularly right afterwards) for less than three hundred, and if you MUST put optics on a 30/30 don't get anything bigger than a 3x9 you'll never need it. If I were going to make the decision for my first rifle I'd probably go with the SKS its reliable, hard to break cheap and there are tons of extra's to play with. Once you've jacked around with your SKS you'll start to learn how guns work and you'll be better off getting an expensive gun later, Just my opinion though.

Alright thnx, but could you collaborate on what a 30/30 Marlin is, as I said I'm flip flopping on research and just really stumbling around in the dark at this time. I'd like to buy that Marlin Action Lever, and if you have a better Lever Action Marlin could you tell me all the specs., and little info that goes with it, I'm really trying hard to learn... -_-' (sorry)

Once again thank you very much everyone just got my paycheck so all I have to do is choose now. =D

the marlin 30/30 is the most common lever action gun( that i have noticed no statistics for this) 30/30 is around that wil take down anything in america besides buffalo,bear, and maybe a big elk. it is a fairrly cheap round and you can find it everywhere(they even sell it in gas stations here around deer season) you can get them used for cheap cheap or you can buy a brand spankin new one with all the bells and whistle here is a site that has every thing you need, but don;t purchase from here they tend to be expensive.
www.able ammo.com

here is the base model marlin 30/30
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=99552

I prefer it in stainless but, but it gets rather expensive.

I don't understand the question, but if it is

yes it has both advantages and disadvantages
Pro.
1 It's easy to carry with a strap over long distances
2 Its reliable and can't shoot any load you put in it because it's a lever action and your responsible for cycling the acton
3. lever actions fire very quickly (if you are good with them)
4. ammo price is better than .308, 45/70 , 44mag and some .357.
cons.
1 ammo capacity is low
2 reloading takes a while compared to magazine fed weapons
3 it's relatively short barrel makes it less accurate
4 you must re aquire a target after every shot do to the lever process(if you are not good with them)
5 ammo price is higher than 7.62 x 39 or .223

Alright, and wow, thank you very much, it helped alot with the pros, and cons. =D
I found a website and wondered if this was the same thing you were talking about. Also would a scope be a good idea, since I'm ordering this from a hunting retail store.
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http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/centerfire/336W.asp
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Lol, thanks, so scope is outta the question which I'm better with iron sights anyway, and I think I'll be going with the Marlin Model 336W Caliber .30-30 Winchester as you suggested. =D

Thank you very much and the time and effort that you used to help me. =D

Dead set, Q - It appeals to me quite a lot, but it will surely not be my last firearm purchase, unless I buy it and shortly after everything goes South... =D

Use, Q - Self protection, anti-zombie weapon, disaster weapon, practice, and just for fun.

Ammo supply, Q - I have to look around, but you did say that ammo was cheap so I may just buy in stock on the net, I have some pals who have recommended some good sites.

On another note if I was to buy or stockpile ammo, how much do you think I would need. Also I might be buying a bandoleer and a universal speed loader.

I own one of the older Marlin 30-30 lever action rifles. It is a superb brush and deer gun. I personally didn't put optics on mine considering it is a hundred yard gun for the most part. It is an excellent choice for a first rifle, and It will put a person down if need be.

I said ammo was cheaper than most, for cheap rounds you shoul pay about .50 cents around for hunting rounds you'll need to pay more. I think the SKS is a better first gun, but the marlin will do just fine as well.

Actually you make a very valid point on the SKS, I have looked into that as a matter of fact. =D

I own one of those as well. I took the route of trying to make it all tacticool now I wish I hadn't. I still have had problems with all detachable after market mags. I personally suggest if you get one just keep the standard ten round fixed mag on it. With an SKS in its original format they are a very nice combat rifle. Not supremely accurate but they do get the job done.

it's rather inaccurate at range(over 150 yards)

Here 250 is a conservative guess

.357/.44mag would be a companion piece for a pistol.

That might have been the case a while back, but lever-gun ammunition is changing quick. Although the price goes up with such a change.

Before I left home I couldn't find one for less than three bills.

That's why I want a .45-70..... I do plan on doing a wee bit of bear hunting in the future....

I use this on my 30-30

You could also look into one of the ammo belts as well. I personally like having a lever gun in the arsenal but it is not my first choice of a long arm, But the do make a darn good fall back gun.

Alright and thanks, I have actually looked into some bandoleers and ammo belts before anyone mentioned it. Here are some links to some I had found personally on the net, tell me what you think. =D

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http://www.securityprousa.com/rifleammobelt.html

http://www.securityprousa.com/riamba.html

http://www.securityprousa.com/buttstockrifle.html

http://www.securityprousa.com/rifleammopouch.html

http://www.securityprousa.com/deampo.html

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